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    • Lotus Esprit returning? Lotus expected to launch V6 hybrid mid-engine sports car

      The Esprit name is legendary. Lotus was doing lightweight mid-engine flat plane crank twin turbo V8 sports cars years before McLaren thought it would be cool. A new Esprit has everyone's attention but don't hold your breath.


      Lotus makes big promises and rarely delivers. If anything, reports coming from British sources just seem to be bragging about Lotus with little substance.

      Believe this if you want to:

      Expected to be shown in the first half of next year before going on sale in the following months, the new Lotus will revive the format of the Esprit as a Ferrari-baiting super sports car with a price set in the low six figures. Like that iconic model, it will be intended to retain the Norfolk brandís celebrated driving dynamics while offering increased everyday usability and refinement over existing models.
      Oh, a Ferrari beating Lotus with a value price point? Sure. We'll believe it when we see it.

      Where are the test mules? Where is the actual engineering being showcased? Where are the specs? What we have is speculation.

      Autocar's report includes a lot of wishful thinking and let's just say we doubt a Ferrari beater from Lotus will show up next year.

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      1. nbrigdan's Avatar
        nbrigdan -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Oh, a Ferrari beating Lotus with a value price point? Sure. We'll believe it when we see it.
        Definitely wishful thinking but not entirely out of the realm of possibility. The current Lotus Exige 430 has a power to weight ratio of within 0.5 lb/hp of the 488 GTB. Komo-tec has made ~490 BHP out of that 3.5 S/C motor on stock internals and >500 with a built engine. Considering the 1000 lb curb weight difference I think there's more than enough room for Lotus to maneuver in there.

        Swap out the S/C for TT, forged pistons/rods from the factory and you could easily see 600+ BHP from that 3.5, let alone if they add a hybrid system on top.

        Now do I actually expect them to do any of this? Absolutely not. They should stick to what they're good at. Building pure, unrivaled drivers cars in an age where no one else does.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by nbrigdan Click here to enlarge
        Definitely wishful thinking but not entirely out of the realm of possibility. The current Lotus Exige 430 has a power to weight ratio of within 0.5 lb/hp of the 488 GTB. Komo-tec has made ~490 BHP out of that 3.5 S/C motor on stock internals and >500 with a built engine. Considering the 1000 lb curb weight difference I think there's more than enough room for Lotus to maneuver in there.

        Swap out the S/C for TT, forged pistons/rods from the factory and you could easily see 600+ BHP from that 3.5, let alone if they add a hybrid system on top.

        Now do I actually expect them to do any of this? Absolutely not. They should stick to what they're good at. Building pure, unrivaled drivers cars in an age where no one else does.
        Right but we're talking about a brand new ground-up hybrid V6 mid-engine car here not one of their older platforms tweaked.
      1. nbrigdan's Avatar
        nbrigdan -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Right but we're talking about a brand new ground-up hybrid V6 mid-engine car here not one of their older platforms tweaked.
        They're British...I'm expecting a tweaked Evora platform if this car ever comes to fruition.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by nbrigdan Click here to enlarge
        They're British...I'm expecting a tweaked Evora platform if this car ever comes to fruition.
        That's normally what I would guess too but if they don't know something new put a fork in them. I don't think they can live off stretching the Elise/Exige forever.
      1. nbrigdan's Avatar
        nbrigdan -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        That's normally what I would guess too but if they don't know something new put a fork in them. I don't think they can live off stretching the Elise/Exige forever.
        It would be neat if they could develop a new carbon / aluminum structure to underpin their new vehicles. Imagine an Elise with a full carbon tub, it could weigh less than 1800 lbs.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by nbrigdan Click here to enlarge
        Imagine an Elise with a full carbon tub, it could weigh less than 1800 lbs.
        From SEMA 2009 Click here to enlarge

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      1. nbrigdan's Avatar
        nbrigdan -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        From SEMA 2009 Click here to enlarge
        That is amazing.
      1. nbrigdan's Avatar
        nbrigdan -
        Here it is...testing under an Evora body:

        https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/n...0)::hero_image
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by nbrigdan Click here to enlarge
        Here it is...testing under an Evora body:

        https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/n...0)::hero_image
        I'm amazed there is a test mule.
      1. nbrigdan's Avatar
        nbrigdan -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        I'm amazed there is a test mule.
        And it's supposed to be built on the same aluminium chassis as the Evora (last Lotus car on it). Now they just have to record some turbo noises coming from the car and my prediction will be proven correct Click here to enlarge
      1. Alpina_B3_Lux's Avatar
        Alpina_B3_Lux -
        With their new owners Geely they should have sufficient resources to finally do something other than tweaking 20-year-old platforms indefinitely at a price point that is TBH not competitive any longer today.